In this inspiring episode of Building a Business: Grit & Grace, we interview Cathy Nesbitt, a serial entrepreneur, educator, and the joyful force behind Cathy’s Club, Cathy’s Crawly Composters, and Cathy’s Sprouters.
Cathy’s story is unlike anything you’ve heard before. What began as a mission to help Canadians compost indoors grew into a 23-year entrepreneurial journey rooted in sustainability, wellness, and laughter. After years of hearing “ew, worms in the house,” Cathy stumbled into laughter yoga, a practice that changed her mindset, her business, and her life.
Today, Cathy runs a global laughter club, teaches people how to reconnect with joy, and uses humour as a tool to combat stress, boost productivity, and build resilience, especially for entrepreneurs who often carry the weight of everything. Her energy is contagious, her lessons are practical, and her outlook on life will stay with you long after the episode ends.
If you’re an aspiring founder, solopreneur, or small business owner who wants to feel more grounded, energized, and aligned in your business, this episode will give you a whole new way to think about success. One rooted in joy, presence, connection, and purpose.
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Transcript for “Laughing Your Way to Business Success with Cathy Nesbitt”
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Anna Angelova 0:05
Hello and welcome to a brand new episode of Building a Business, Grit and Grace. I’m Anna Angelova, the host of this podcast, a business coach and consultant, and I have the pleasure of speaking with Cathy Nesby today and.
I can tell you this is my favorite interview because Kathy, like, I just met you very recently, but wow. And I’m really looking forward to this conversation. So welcome Kathy.
Let’s start with sharing a little bit about yourself and what you do.
Cathy Nesbitt 0:43
OK, beautiful. Thank you, Anna. Oh, I’m. I’m thrilled to be here. And I’m thank you. I’m just really grateful and I’m so happy that we met. So I’m here. I’ll tell you what my working title is. It’s Kathy Crowley, Laughing Bean Queen.
So Ioffer simple solutions for today’s challenges, some of them worms for amending the soil, sprouts for eating, and laughter for overall health and Wellness. And yeah, so that’s kind of me, just in a little nutshell.
Anna Angelova 1:15
Very interesting combination, warmth, sprouts and laughter. So share a little bit about your journey, how you started with each of these and ultimately where you are today.
Cathy Nesbitt 1:31
Yeah, so I’m located in Canada, just north of Toronto, largest city in Canada. And in 2002 our landfill closed and we started to export our garbage to United States and I had a solution for the wet waste for the organic matter.
And yeah, so I kind of set forth. I believe I was an accidental entrepreneur. You know, I just had an idea and I I went ahead and did it. But a few, of course, a few things lined up for for that to happen like like it does.
And I I set forth and started to have a table wherever I could, like, oh, you need to have worms in the house to manage your food scraps, your paper. It turns it into black gold so you can grow more delicious food or more beautiful flowers or, you know, garden, you know, whatever.
And I set forth, and I never even realized that people might be afraid of worms.
Anna Angelova 2:31
Yep.
Cathy Nesbitt 2:31
Right. I just was like, this is a great idea. We need this. But people don’t buy what they need, they buy what they want.
Anna Angelova 2:39
Yeah, true.
Cathy Nesbitt 2:41
Right. And that’s what I didn’t know. I just had had this idea. I set forth. I had all the passion, all the energy, and I would have a table wherever I could. And then people would say, ew, worms in the house. They’d be all there like, oh, what a great idea. What do I do in the winter?
And I go, no, it’s inside year round. Oh, worms in the house. But you know, here. So just for anyone that’s like, Oh my God, worms in the house. No, it’s it’s just composting. It’s nature’s way. It’s aerobic process, so it’s not gonna smell like rotting food.
It’s gonna smell like the forest floor, like just a a natural smell. It’s in a container like a Rubbermaid container. It’s your food scraps and paper and the the carbon nitrogen. So like outdoor composting but done inside and then the worms eat all of that and their poop is the the fertilizers kind of in a.
Anna Angelova 3:31
Mhm.
Cathy Nesbitt 3:36
Nutshell, that’s it. And in 20, so I would, you know, I realized early on that people didn’t want what I had and I started to do school workshops.
So I took on speaking, and luckily I don’t have a fear of public speaking. That’s one of my gifts. Like people are like, oh, I don’t want to say you have to. If you’re an entrepreneur, it’s essential that you have the confidence to stand up there and, you know, say your piece. You have to. Otherwise, you know, you have this great thing that nobody knows about.
Anna Angelova 3:54
Wait.
Yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 4:06
Out so school workshops. Beautiful. I love that part. Setting up the children with a a worm bin. So what a great lesson. And so that’s the worms. And then I got to the laughter because in 2012 one more person said ew worms in the house.
Anna Angelova 4:24
Yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 4:27
And I heard at that time, I wasn’t paying attention before, you know, they say listen to your clients. I wasn’t listening. I was like, no, no, no, you need this. Yeah, they’re like, yeah, I don’t want that.
Anna Angelova 4:33
Yeah, true. Umm
Cathy Nesbitt 4:43
And then 2012, so that when I in 2012, when I when I when that last person said it, I was like, Oh my gosh, I don’t know what to do.
How am I gonna do this? I kept like, what are you gonna? What do you want from the universe? I don’t know. And the very next day I was introduced to laughter yoga.
Anna Angelova 5:02
Oh.
Cathy Nesbitt 5:04
Wow.
Do you have a question or do you want me to continue?
Anna Angelova 5:08
Continue. Yeah, I love how you you asked like, what do I do? The next day the answer counts.
Cathy Nesbitt 5:15
Like it does when we listen, right? I cause I was, I was at the end. I was like, I don’t 10 years. OK, I tried. Most people don’t stay with it for 10 years if it’s, you know, I mean it was working. It’s just I thought it was gonna be a household name by then.
Anna Angelova 5:18
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mhm.
Cathy Nesbitt 5:33
And I’m still meeting people that haven’t heard of it 23 years in, right? And there’s a lot of things attached. I mean, it’s the worms and everything, but OK, so laughter, laughter, yoga is not doing yoga and laughing. It’s laughing as a cardiovascular exercise.
Started in 1995 by a medical doctor in India and his goal is World Peace. Like, Can you imagine how beautiful?
Anna Angelova 6:00
Oh.
Amazing, yeah, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 6:02
How wonderful. So that so we’re laughing. There’s laughter clubs in over 120 countries now, people laughing everywhere. So there’s little games to inspire the laughter, and the yoga part is the practice of the laughter and the deep diaphragmatic breathing.
Anna Angelova 6:11
Mhm.
Cathy Nesbitt 6:22
You know, we don’t drink 8 glasses of water one day and check it off the list. We don’t go jogging once and go, OK, I jogged, I did it or meditate once. So laughter is a practice. It’s something we need to incorporate, um, into our daily life.
Because when we’re laughing, we’re excreting or secreting all the love drugs, dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin and endorphins, the happy chemicals. So we feel good. It’s a chemical process.
And an electrical process. When we’re laughing, we’re high energy, we’re vibrating. We we feel so great versus when we’re feeling, you know, stressed or depressed or anxious. Those are low vibe vibrating energies.
And not good or bad, but we certainly feel good when we’re vibrating at a higher rate.
Anna Angelova 7:19
Oh yeah. And I actually got to experience this this morning and my word is like, like, wow, the the way it made me feel that higher energy and like you said, the vibration and anything, everything around it.
I I even my my partner, like Joris, he he was saying that he saw me and he’s like, oh, why are you so happy? Like I just attended the Cathy’s club. That’s it. Believable.
Cathy Nesbitt 7:47
Wow.
And now it’s on your calendar for every Tuesday.
Anna Angelova 7:55
It’s on my calendar for every Tuesday now, yes, yes. And so I’m really grateful for for attending this and having the chance to experience it myself because like you said, as business owners, like it’s not easy like you you had the composting for 10 years and like you’re not seeing the results and you’re reaching at an end.
Where it’s like what do I do? And having something like this at your fingertips where you can use it for yourself, but then now you offer this for others. So if you want to share a little bit more about.
What you’re doing now with the laughter yoga is how you how you serve clients. And I’m also curious to see how all these things come together with the compost, with the sprouts.
Cathy Nesbitt 8:45
Yeah, so the laughter has really taken over my life. It’s so beautiful. It’s so much fun. And we do have a global mental health tsunami right now. You know, it was here before 2020, but it’s just bigger now. More people are struggling.
And we’re living in a perpetual state of stress. We’re we’re going around and we’ve normalized stress. We wear it like a badge of honor, like, oh, I’m so busy. I have all these things and look at my To Do List and I’m so great. Look at all the things I’m but I’m exhausted. I’m so tired and oh, and and I have the.
Aches and pains. And I’m not eating right and I’m not sleeping right. OK, so is it really a great life then? You might be busy, but I don’t think we’re meant to be busy all the time. I I think we’re meant to experience in a wonderful way. It’s our choice. I mean, not not to be against anyone that.
You know, works all the time and they, you know, pride themself in getting 4 hours sleep and I can do it. Of course you can. Our body is magnificent. It’s this beautiful temple of systems. And imagine if we feed it right and think the good thoughts and exercise and can.
Net and not just spend time on our computers because it’s it’s so lopsided. You know, we’re getting all this blue light in our in our eyes, so our eyes, so our body thinks it’s day all the time. So we’re so no wonder we can’t sleep.
It’s really deep and the laughter is a built-in mechanism for us to to just reset, to have fun like children, just to laugh and play. Because when we’re stressed, blood, lymph, oxygen leaves our frontal lobe.
And goes into, you know, into our muscles. So we can kind of escape even if we’re escaping from our mind, from all the busy, all the things we can’t control, right. The all the things in the world that we see on the news that, you know, I would say limit your time watching the news.
Anna Angelova 10:54
Oh yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 10:54
You’re going to know people say I need to know what’s going on. You will.
Anna Angelova 10:58
Yes, true.
Cathy Nesbitt 10:59
I know what’s going on, but I don’t want to watch the news. People tell you or you see what you need to know. We know what we need to know, but we don’t need to see all the gory details and hear everything because we can’t unhear or unsee what we’ve seen and heard.
So, so I would. So that’s what laughter has done for me. It’s changed my life in that I think when before when people said worms in the house or worms in the house, I took it on a personal like it was like an.
This is my baby. This worm business is my baby. As gross as it is or sounds to some people, yeah, it’s my mission. So I think I took it like, oh, I don’t know, they don’t like me or or whatever, as shallow as that sounds.
And laughter gave me permission to not take that on because I’m vibrating up here. I go, oh, my brain’s fully oxygenated. Now I can come up with like, oh, that’s not mine, that’s their stuff. And so it’s so freeing, really. It has liberated me in such a way that it’s allowed.
Allowed me to continue with the worm mission, but also now to bring this magic medicine to others.
Anna Angelova 12:22
So beautiful and you’re right that a lot of times your business is your baby and when someone says you or what is this like we take it personally and the fact that laughter has helped you do this and for yourself get get to that higher level.
Cathy Nesbitt 12:34
Oh.
Anna Angelova 12:42
Where it’s like it’s OK, like it’s not for everyone. Like it’s there, it’s there thing. One thing actually I wanted, I wanted to. I’m curious because you mentioned that you at some point you started presenting and speaking and even going to schools.
One thing I’m curious with I can imagine that reaction you mentioned kids, kids laugh a lot like they they they’re way more they they vibrate as as kids we vibrate at these higher levels and I’m curious with kids like how did they react to to warmth?
Cathy Nesbitt 13:15
Mm.
Yeah, it was fascinating depending on the age. So I did like kindergarten to university. It was suitable for everywhere and I increased the knowledge as I went up in grade, but really it was basically the same workshop for kindergarten or university.
Right. How to set it up? Here are the worms. Here’s what you feed them. The the reaction was interesting, you know, in in a a large urban centre, say Toronto, 6 million people in the Greater Toronto Area, half living. It’s it’s concrete jungle, right? There’s condos, townhouses.
Anna Angelova 13:40
Yeah.
And.
Yeah, yeah, true.
Cathy Nesbitt 13:59
Not a lot of green space. A lot of these children had never seen a worm, and for sure they never held one before. So the reaction was it was mixed. Some had trepidation, like very scared about, you know, but you know, I would just share with them like how wonderful it was, the worms, how fun.
Five hearts each. They turn our garbage into gold. And once we learn these this information, you know the grand finale. If the school was getting a workshop, they’d set up the worm bin. So they set up the home, the shredded paper soil. They mix it up like kids are very like it’s tactile, right? They’re.
Moving. They’re engaging. They’re not on technology. When you’re doing worms, you’re not on your thing, right? So there’s many lessons here. If there’s any teachers listening. And so then the grand finale, the bedding’s all set up. It’s so beautiful. Everyone’s got their hands dirty.
And that is another piece, Anna. Like, we’re so clean today that sometimes the kids are like, oh, can I wash my hands? And it’s like, not yet. No, the worms will love that you have dirt on your hands.
Anna Angelova 14:59
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 15:07
Right. So be it, right. So then we. So then the grand finale is holding worms and wow, it’s so beautiful. Like there’s a it’s really loud, right? Everyone’s squealing. Imagine. So I I let the kids. So I have them hold their hands like this. I put it together and I put a worm or two in their hands.
And I just say, feel what it feels like. Feel the worm moving around. They don’t have bones, they don’t have teeth. They can’t do anything to harm you. So just feel what this feels like and when we get connected to something.
We can’t, we can’t not remember that experience. It’s it’s a magic moment where they get transformed from where they’re like scared. They might be really stressed and oh, they’re scared, but they see their friends and their peers, their classmates doing it.
And then I get to them, I say, Are you sure? And you don’t have to do it. So some of them don’t. Some of them choose not to. And I acknowledge them at the end too, because we have choice in life. We don’t have to do what everyone’s doing. Um, so it’s so beautiful. The reaction is just wonderful. And then they go and then at.
Anna Angelova 16:12
Oh yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 16:20
After, you know, they put it in the bin and then I asked them to share how was that holding the worm? Did you see the lines? Did, you know, did it move? And they’ll say it tickled or you know, it did this or that. Whoa, one was trying to climb up my arm and.
You know, so it’s just it’s it’s beautiful.
Anna Angelova 16:39
Oh wow. It’s definitely an an interesting experience and something that spreading the word and helping in this way. Because like you said, a lot of kids nowadays, we live in a concrete journal at the jungle and it’s like really they they’ve never seen it. They’ve never.
Go into the dirt and get this out of the ground even. It’s fantastic. And do you keep on going to this kind of events like where you present to kids?
Cathy Nesbitt 17:14
Yes, yes, I’m still doing the worm workshops. I’m selling less of the worms and doing less of that business because I’m focused on laughter. But for sure, I’m still speaking about it because I think it’s really essential because if we’d never experienced something.
Why would we care about it? If we’ve never been to the forest, why would we care if they cut it down and build houses? Why would we care? Cause we don’t know that it’s, you know, and this is really heavy and that’s why, you know, I need to bring in the laughter because it’s such a heavy mission.
Anna Angelova 17:33
Yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 17:51
I get sad when I when I learn about another chunk of forest going or another species going extinct, you know, oh good, that bug is gone. No, not good, because it’s a whole ecosystem. We’re all contributing in our way.
And the trees are the lungs. They provide, they take the carbon dioxide and convert it into oxygen. So we feed them and then they feed us and they give us shade and, you know, all the things. Yeah. So, wow, that went heavy really quick.
Anna Angelova 18:25
Well it’s it’s I love the way you your laughter by the way and and how you how you laugh so so often and like you said it helps you with a mission that you have and I would say even with the.
After yoga, when you talk about it, when you when I attended this morning, Kathy’s club, it was fantastic. Like your passion with this as well. It was it was beautiful and the the way you lead this, it’s.
Cathy Nesbitt 18:56
Um.
Anna Angelova 19:04
It’s no wonder you’ve been doing, yes, it’s different business, right? Like you started in 2002 with the compost and the warmth, but now it’s been like 23 years and now even with the laughter yoga, you were introduced, what, 13 years ago?
Cathy Nesbitt 19:20
Yeah.
Anna Angelova 19:21
And you’re going strong. And one thing I’m wondering when it comes to in a way adding let’s let because it’s not exactly pivoting like you still have the compost, you still have this thing going on, but adding this.
Laughter yoga, something that is different, like it’s not compost. So. So if you think about the compost, like one of the things you have is for families, right? Like for people who live in houses, like they can have this in their own house. So this is your.
Ideal client, let’s say. But when it comes to laughter yoga, it’s a bit of a different thing. So how did you start with this part of the business?
And.
Cathy Nesbitt 20:07
Oh, that’s great. Well, I guess first I would say my wheelhouse for laughter and for the composting for all of my things. Just in life, I really wanna work with special needs and seniors and.
Yeah, it’s so it’s so it’s really combining all of those things, bringing, bringing the laughter. Before, before 2020, I was going into long term care and working with special needs to bring laughter because it’s not about jokes or comedy.
It’s experience. It’s laughing. That’s the hard part.
People going somewhere. It’s about those two people. Not funny for them, right? So yoga is doing more like Simon Says, which is why folks that have like older folks that have dementia.
And think logically. It doesn’t matter. The the laughter reminds us. It’s like music, laughing when oh, we remember how it feels and and I realized that.
A lot. And after yoga, when I get stressed, then I’ll.
Kind of giving me permission to just laugh spontaneously whenever I need. I need that, if that makes sense. Yeah. So I so thank you for that question.
I I just, I I really want everyone. This is great for everyone and you know as as as somebody that helps people, entrepreneurs and people to to grow their businesses.
Focus is important so you can focus on a certain area and then can expand from there. Laughter is for everyone and in order to get it to everyone, I’m starting with seniors like long term care, special needs children as well. I’m.
I’m also going into schools just like the worms and doing laughter for before 20 I, you know, children do laugh a lot, but even the children are born at such a stressful time that they’re and they’re born with now with the technology in their hand.
So they’re they’re not developing. Their brains are developing differently than ours did because we weren’t attached to technology, right? So we had more imagination and we had more freedom to experience. Like now it’s more kind of 2D in a way, cause we’re looking at screens.
So even children require more.
Engagement with with the laughter, with the laughter so that they can learn what what what the laughter does is teaches us that we’re in charge of how we feel. If we’re stressed or too tight, we’re not breathing properly. We know that we can just laugh. Ha ha ha ha.
Dance around a little bit, free up our body and that’s that’s the goal of laughter yoga.
Anna Angelova 23:29
So beautifully said and it’s interesting what you’re saying that even like the the times we live in right now that even kids don’t they they they get impacted by by the environment and the like technology.
Because before I was reading how before like kids laugh on average like, I don’t know, 100 times a day or something like this. So it it sounds like this is changing that technology is impacting even kids nowadays and even they need.
More, more engagement to be able to get back to that higher vibration and energy.
Cathy Nesbitt 24:11
Yeah. So we’re spending a lot of time on technology and it’s not just technology and and I’m not against technology, it’s just we need boundaries. It’s like the Wild West right now and there’s no, we don’t know what to do. We’re not sure what’s the right thing, but we definitely need boundaries.
And it’s also what’s what’s being emanated across those layers. There’s still a lot of positive things. Even social media is about comparing like, oh, people are, you know, it’s their highlight reel. Here, here we are at this fancy.
Yate. We’re on this trip. Look at us, look at me, what I’m wearing. It’s all about me, me, me instead of what about us? And not comparing, just everyone doing their own thing, like everyone being their own person.
Anna Angelova 25:05
Oh yeah, definitely. We all need more positivity and more laughter in our lives. I can. I can completely agree with this. And I’m wondering, like you did say that laughter has helped you a lot. Like it changed, it changed your life and it turned into another part of your business and what you.
You’re doing. What is the thing that you love the most about the work you’re doing?
Cathy Nesbitt 25:34
Wow, that’s a good question. Oh my gosh, I just felt that whole big question cause there’s so many answers for that. First of all, how it’s impacted my health. Like I’m all about health and Wellness and prevention. I don’t wanna get sick and then get better. I don’t wanna hit rock bottom and then go up. I wanna go from here.
Anna Angelova 25:52
Yeah, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 25:54
I want to keep living to live to 111. So in order to do that, in order to and I want to be living independently, vibrant and still leading laughter. So I don’t want to just get there. I want to get there and be vibrant and consciously number.
Anna Angelova 25:58
Oh, nice.
Cathy Nesbitt 26:13
So in order for that to be the case, I need to be super healthy now, which I am. Laughter has changed my life and every time I go on purpose with attention, I’m laughing several times a day.
My husband, my husband co-leads laughter with me. Now it wasn’t always the case. I before 2020 I was doing Skype laughter. It was 20 minutes laughter professionals, slow talking. We just it wasn’t video to dial and we would laugh for 20.
Minutes. So we got to practice our craft. You know, you practice different laughs, just laughing. So I was doing me now, just laughing. And my husband would leave the room and I’m like, why? Why is he leaving? Like, laughter’s the best medicine. Why isn’t he staying? What’s happening here?
So I see he was laughter and then and that that that he has a different story but and that’s not exactly the case cause even when I’m laughing me I’m affecting my house. So he was affected I’m.
And.
I’m affecting the whole world.
And that that sounds like, how can that be? It’s the butterfly rippling in Asia and we feel the impact over here. It’s exactly that. When I laugh, I’m expecting the whole world saying if I’m depressed or sad.
I’m thinking because I don’t have enough in a very slow way in 2022. I’m also a laughter yoga teacher, so I teach leaders. It’s a two day training in November 2022, we’re walking in the forest.
And I said, oh, I have a training coming up next week and I only have one student and they’re paid. So I guess we’re going ahead. And I laughed. Ha ha ha. He turned to me and and he said, we all take the training.
Anna Angelova 28:21
Oh.
Cathy Nesbitt 28:23
That was the first time I ever heard that he wanted to take the training and become a laughter leader. What? Because the training is not just to so that you can lead Laughter Club. You take the training so you can learn the history of laughter. What is the benefit? What are the benefits to my health? Why do I want to laugh?
And then how do I do this? How do I add laughter to my like daily life? And as you experienced today, Rick now Co leads the Laughter Club with me and we’re different like every speaker, every trainer.
We’re different. I don’t need to plan. I’m I’m divinely guided. I trust 100% that whatever I say is what I need to say at that moment. Everybody’s different. Rick needs to plan. So he.
He had, he puts in the zoom behind him a photo. So when people arrive they’re like, oh, what do what’s Rick doing today? I bring the energy modalities. I incorporate tapping, brain gym, Qi Kong. So I bring that part in cause I want people to feel good.
And Rick brings in the laughter part. He’ll do the laughter exercises. So we have this beautiful, like not only we’ve been together, gosh, over 40 years and laughter has and we’re in business together. We do the work. Rick is the head worm technician and now he’s co-leading laughter with me.
Anna Angelova 29:39
well
Cathy Nesbitt 29:48
We have these three streams of business and it’s our life. We laugh every day together. We tend to the worms together. We eat sprouts together. So what we do is what we are.
Anna Angelova 30:06
Love it. How you it’s not something that you just do. Like you said, this is who you are, this is what you do and and how you get to show up every single day. And even like I said, just by you laughing, you are changing the world you are.
You’re you’re impacting the world and fantastic. It’s it’s fantastic and that.
Again, when you are in that higher energy, when you operate from that level with the laughter and the joy, the topic today was joy. And yes, running a business has its own ups and downs, but when you have a tool like this.
Where you you you can get yourself out of you know the deep sometimes it’s it’s amazing and I love your story and your journey and how how you have viewed all these things together and you are the example like you you showcase it.
This is what we do every day. This is how we show up. This is how we live our life. This is how we run our businesses. 23 years in business. This is not a small feat.
Cathy Nesbitt 31:15
It is.
Yeah, I I thank you. Thank you. That’s that’s a a wonderful way to sum up what we’ve been talking about. And that’s what I want for everybody. Anna, of course, not worms, sprouts and laughter, but what are what is your trifecta? I don’t have just one stream of income.
I don’t, you know, before 2020, I thought I was a juggler. Like, oh, what do you need? I have it. Like, you want worms, you want sprouts, you you want some joy. What do you what would you like? And then I realized, you know, all that thinking time. Two years of time to think. Enough already. Let’s move on. Time to let me out of the house.
Anna Angelova 31:57
Yes. Oh, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 32:01
Haha, not funny, right? I realized, wow, these are not separate things. These are what I what I said. These are all the things that I do. I personally have worms in my kitchen to manage my scraps. I eat sprouts every day.
As part of my health plan and I laugh every day. So they really are three things that go together beautifully. So I would ask your your audience what do they want to do? Like what? Maybe not for business, but how do you want to live your life? How do you want to show up?
Every day we make an impact. Everybody does. We could make a good, like a positive. We could be contributors or we could be detractors. And I would say when we when we feel good, we do good and the world needs more do gooders. So go and find that passion that you have.
I I believe that passion is the fuel that drives us, not the money. Like you can go and make money. There’s lots of ways, but that might not drive you for too long. You might be like, yeah, OK, I’m in the money now. What? OK, not enough. You can’t eat money. So if you’re passionate about what you’re doing, you get up every day. You’re like, yeah.
And maybe not again, not for business. Like have a hobby that, you know, fills your soul, ’cause when we’re, you know, then we then we’re contributing. Yeah, that’s.
That’s it.
Anna Angelova 33:24
Very, very well said, Kathy. And when you were talking about passion, it it reminded me what you mentioned a little bit earlier as well with you being, I I would say it’s more towards like a person who like you, you’d listen and like you go like.
You don’t need a script and things like this, like being connected to intuition. And this is something that I would say we women are are are gifted at this. This is one of our gifts that we bring and it’s interesting it not everyone building a business is not for everyone.
Cathy Nesbitt 34:02
No.
Anna Angelova 34:02
And that’s perfectly OK. Like you said, having hobby and I’ve met people who love their job, right? They have a career, they love it, they’re passionate about it. So what you just said that find your passion, whether it’s something that is like a business you’re building, whether it’s.
The the career you have, whether it’s a hobby that you have and a lot of times we think, oh, this is not enough. If I’m if I’m just doing this, like how am I changing the world? It is. It is changing the world even if you are.
When you take care of yourself and you laugh and you you are at that energy, it is impacting. You might not see it immediately, but it creates that ripple effect. So very, very like amazing story and great advice for anyone listening.
And I wanted to ask you, like we talked about your journey so far, we talked about what you’re doing, how you’re working with different people and like seniors and leaders as well. So I was actually wondering what’s ahead.
You’ve mentioned that in 2020 you had a chance to think about you had that white space to think about and connect dots. I’m wondering now any plans for the future, the vision for how you’re building all these businesses and with.
The laughter yoga being at the core now.
Cathy Nesbitt 35:40
Yeah, I wanna continue to just educate about about this magic medicine. People don’t know about laughter yoga. You know, a lot of people have heard the expression laughter is the best medicine, but they’re not practicing. Like if that’s true, and it is, it’s scientifically proven.
It’s a challenge for us to laugh. So I I would say I I’m, I’m want to continue. I see myself on large stages, Anna, as the, you know, at a large conference, people are in their mind, they’re doing learning, learning, learning. I want to be the the little break, you know, they come and they have.
Have the people come and they dance or whatever. I want to be the 10 or 15 minute bio break between sessions and get paid like a whack-a-do for for that because then people will clear their space, they free everything up and then they come back in the afternoon ready for the next session to learn.
Yeah, so I see. I see myself speaking on large stages about this because I keep learning about what else can I do for me? How else can I? What else can I do to make me feel better? So then I can bring that one of my gifts is.
I’m a I’m a phyllomath, which means a lifelong learner. I love learning every day. Every single day I watch something or read something so I can learn something new, even if it’s something for 10 minutes. And and my gift is being able to read or learn something new and then bring it.
Bring it to my laughter club or to my audience and in a way that they can understand it. You don’t have to go to the seven day summit. Here’s what you need to know. And you know, and I think that’s that’s one of my gifts is just being able to transmute the information so people can.
And take it on in their DNA.
Anna Angelova 37:41
Oh yeah, I’m a witness and I can say that based on even just like 30 minutes this morning, the way you were explaining things and I loved it. And like you said, it can be even just 10 minutes, right? It can be you were at the stage for 10 minutes break between whatever the.
Conference is about and even the work I do. One of the things is that it’s science, right? That when we are in the stress energy, we are not productive, we are not performing, we are not.
At our best, we’re not at our we’re not showing up fully and even just 10 minutes of release it and getting to that energy of joy and flow and people can be ready for the next thing. So I I love this vision and I can see you. I can see you being there.
And doing this with people and the energy, it’s like I’m seeing it like, you know, I I don’t know why Tony Robbins came as a as an example because like a lot of what you do is also very physical, right? Moving the body as well. And I can also say what you said about laughter.
Cathy Nesbitt 38:42
Yay. Thank you.
Anna Angelova 38:59
Like when you brought the at the end, when you brought the the the timer with the laughing. This is hard. It’s really, really hard to to to to laugh. It’s like sustaining it. Yeah, it feels like an eternity.
Cathy Nesbitt 39:10
One minute.
One minute.
Anna Angelova 39:14
I.
Cathy Nesbitt 39:15
I know one minute of full on belly laughs. It’s not easy. Yeah, it’s a practice that that you build up to and you get rock hard. I have rock hard abs from laughing. So and and some people are, yeah, people are like, you should start with that.
Anna Angelova 39:27
I I failed it, yeah.
Yes. Oh yeah. I’ve seen this on socials, right? Like where it says that laughter burns more calories than than running. So now I sit at the bench and I laugh at the runners, so.
Cathy Nesbitt 39:44
Oh, that’s a good one.
Anna Angelova 39:46
It’s like it’s, yeah, it’s hard actually. I was like, wow, very, very surprised at the end. I’m like, OK, this thing, is it, is it moving? What’s going on?
Cathy Nesbitt 40:01
Yeah.
Thank you for saying that. I know one minute. It’s like it’s that that’s funny because when I go into schools and I’m talking about worms, I laugh when I’m talking. And sometimes because the children are not laughing as much as they used to, I, you know, I take questions throughout. So they’ll put up, someone will put up their hand and they’ll say, how come you laugh so much?
So much.
Anna Angelova 40:22
Oh, wow.
Cathy Nesbitt 40:23
And then I’ll say, Oh well, I’m a laughter yoga teacher. And then, oh, what’s that? And then I ask the teacher if it’s if it’s OK if we do an experiment. And I often bring my timer. So I’ll say, you know, I’ll bring it out. They’ve all seen it before from kindergarten.
And I’ll say, this is a one minute timer. Do you think you can laugh full on for one minute? And they’re like, Oh yeah, for sure. And then, you know, I turn the thing over and they’re like, they start out full on, which is really hard. If you build up, it’s a little bit easier, but they laugh full on. And like 5 seconds in, they’re like, Oh my gosh, right. Like.
Anna Angelova 41:00
Yeah, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 41:01
I’m like, keep going.
Anna Angelova 41:04
It is. I really felt it. Like I said, with the core you you feel it like, oh, I’m like, OK, I’m not exercising today. I’m done. Wow, it it is beautiful.
Cathy Nesbitt 41:17
Hmm.
Anna Angelova 41:20
So as we are wrapping up the conversation for today.
Any last I know, I know there’s so much gold in what you said, so I would highly recommend listen to this conversation one more time or a few more times. There’s so much about the energy, the way that the universe works and asking and receiving the the white.
Space listening to when when you answer, ask a question, listening for the answer and and taking like taking that step, taking the action. When the yoga, the laughter yoga came into your world, you actually took the step to.
Learn more about it, to get into it, to start using it personally and help others now. So any other advice you you would give, especially for people who are.
Building businesses, people who might just be starting with their journey. Anything you’d like to share with them?
Cathy Nesbitt 42:26
Yeah, a a couple of things. Of course. I’m chatty Kathy. So first, a couple of expressions that are my favorite expressions and it has to do with business and life, I guess. First one is.
It’s no for sure, unless you ask.
Anna Angelova 42:46
Love this one, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 42:46
Right, right. It’s no for sure. Like it might be no anyway, but if you if you don’t ask, people want to help. So if they but if people don’t know what you need or what that you need help, they might look at you and go, you got that, you don’t need me. But if you go, well, I really do need help. Can do you have time to drive me here?
Or whatever. Just ask. And as women, we often don’t ask. We think we got it all and people want to help. So it’s not for sure. Second one is if you have a business without, well, this has to do with other things, but without awareness, action is impossible.
You might have the best new sliced bread slicer, but if people don’t know about it, well, they’re not buying it. And and I came up with that expression that had to do with my worms. If you didn’t know you could have worms in the house, then you didn’t.
Anna Angelova 43:28
Yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 43:38
And that’s bad for business. And then the last piece of, um, advice I would give is attend a laughter club. And if I could plug my free club here, that it would be really great. It’s yeah, so it’s it’s every Tuesday, 9:30 AM Eastern Time, 30 minutes of soup.
Anna Angelova 43:51
Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.
Cathy Nesbitt 43:58
Fun self-care. Yeah, Kathysclub.com is my website. You just register and come and experience the magic of laughing for the health of it. It changes everything. When we’re laughing, we’re not in stress. So laughter is the opposite of stress.
If you don’t feel like laughing, come anyway, because we just say bring your able body and we’ll make you laugh. And the body doesn’t know the difference between real and simulated laughter. So that’s the magic of it. Your brain, your brain does, right? Your ego does, but your body does not. So when you’re laughing, ha ha ha ha.
You’re secreting the love drugs. You’re oxygenating your body. And if you’re in your mind thinking what is happening, why are you laughing? You’re in your head and not in your body. So get in your body and feel this magic medicine cause it will change everything for you. We’re in charge of our own pharma.
Anna Angelova 44:55
Yeah, very, very well said. And I second this attended. I think this is an amazing way to start your day. Like if you’re here in North America, if you’re somewhere in Europe, yes, it’s a bit later in the day, but still attended though because.
Laughter is even like, you know, with mirror neurons like we we these are contagious things. Even laughter is contagious. Like just listening to to people laugh is like it’s involuntary and.
You’re just attending it. Definitely the links are in the description like we’ll Add all the links and so the best way for people to connect with you.
Cathy Nesbitt 45:39
Yeah, so I’m on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, Kathy Nesbitt and through my my laughter page is probably good to kathysclub.com.
Anna Angelova 45:50
Perfect. Perfect. OK. And the compost link is there as well. And the the the so, so it’s like that holistic and with the sprouts because it’s holistic, right? Like it’s it’s a way of life and laughter is 1 ingredient. You have warmth and the compost and and.
Of course the sprouts, we didn’t talk a lot about this, but it’s it’s part of living to 111, which is like, I love it. And today we’re recording on 1111 as we’re recording this and you know, numbers and things like this.
Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. It’s also, you know, I I believe in these things as well. Speaking of science from the universe. So thank you. Thank you so much, Kathy. It was.
Cathy Nesbitt 46:28
Oh, that’s true. Well, right on.
Anna Angelova 46:44
Such a joy having you here and learning about your journey and sharing more about love for yoga and how hard it is actually and how it gives you 6 pack abs, not not beer. And amazing, amazing. And as I said, highly recommend.
I’ll be joining the there so you can see me in person as well moving and and laughing. So highly recommend join it at 9:30. It’s a wonderful way to start the day.
Cathy Nesbitt 47:18
Thank you, Anna.
Anna Angelova 47:21
Thanks, Kathy. It was awesome.
